What are the consequences of gravity having no quantum properties?

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Mudassir Ali 9 months 3 Answers 217 views

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  1. As an interested bystander of quantum type theories, not a researcher, my impression is that the concept of the quantum is a mathematical convenience, like a tool in a toolbox, to weigh, measure, compare, calculate and predict outcomes, that last one being the critical deciding factor on whether or not the math was correct (or the data collection, that happens too). As there is no pressing need for a quantum explanation of how gravity works (because GR is so good at it) except in the most extreme conditions which we have no access to anyway, most likely there will not be any major changes to the standard models any time soon. I recall reading a few times the calculations for how much energy it would take to detect a graviton, if it exists at all, and all the energy in our galaxy would be required to be harnessed and focused on it. You heard that gravity is the weakest of the four fundamental forces in nature. It takes a lot of mass to generate a field that can be measured with our instruments; a graviton would have a vanishingly small energy content to detect.

    Even with the standard model in which three of the four forces have been quantized and labeled, it does not explain what those quantized energy fields are, it just maps out their physical properties (mass, charge, spin, etc.). You can call them “quantum properties” but that is a bit misleading, I think. They are physical properties of the quantum excitations of the respective fields, and gravity has physical properties, just of the field, not quantized, and it doesn’t prevent any experiment from being conducted, so there are no practical consequences; just aesthetic consequences (unfinished standard model).

  2. What are the consequences of gravity having no quantum properties?

    Gravity obeys the three laws of atomic gravity. There will be a great leap in innovation across the sciences. Uptick your smart factor here and now.

    The first “ Law of Atomic Gravity “ explains the mechanism nature uses to mediate the force of gravity across distances in space. The three laws are very simple to understand. It is a good read for anyone interested in how gravity works and interlinks across the sciences. Welcome to twenty-first century physics.

    Atomic Gravity Summary

    The basic structure of all atoms is a tiny nucleus at its center and a relative vast volume (over 99% of the atoms structure) of empty space all enclosed by a relative distant electron sphere. Atoms are the elemental building blocks of all objects including yourself.

    The simple structure of atoms enable three basic responses. Electromagnetic radiation interactions during excitation. Sound and seismic waves from kinetic inputs. Weight changes when gravity fields fluctuate.

    Gravity at the atomic scale works 24/7 here on Earth and is ubiquitous throughout the observable Universe.

    Nature itself has followed a set of unified principles without question or hesitation for many many millennia. The three laws of “Atomic Gravity” are the missing link to unifying the four fundamental forces of nature.

    Existing experimental data sets and observations clearly confirm the three laws of atomic gravity.

    Three Laws of “Atomic Gravitational Fluctuation” (AGF)

    Law #1 (AGF 1)

    Consider a system of a planet and it’s one orbiting moon.

    Physical Factors:

    1) The total mass (gravity signature (GRS)) of each structure.

    2) The distance between the central gravitational points of each structure.

    3) The relative velocity between each structure.

    Now consider a single atom on the surface of the planet. The nucleus of the atom is shifted relative to its central point toward the central gravitational point of the planet. As the moon transits over the atom, the nucleus of the atom, contained inside its electron sphere shifts towards and tracks the moon relative to its transiting velocity. The slight shift of the nucleus is relative to its own central point and away from the central point of the planet; toward the transiting center of the moon, tracking the moon’s transit and then resettling back to its original position prior to the moon’s transit. This effect on the atom is called atomic gravitational fluctuation type 1 (AGF 1). See diagrams below.

    Note: During the moon’s transit the gravitational energy transfer between moon and planet is a simple force concentrated in each atom which twice daily moves millions/billions of tons of ocean water.

    Atomic gravitational fluctuation (AGF 1) occurring in any gravitationally bound planetary and moon system interacts within the constraints of the structure of each individual orbiting body. Each atom’s nucleus fluctuation is dependent on its position within the atomic environmental structure (AES) of either the moon or the planetary body and the relative AGF 1 inputs. Interaction is more observable in large structures of atoms in their fluid state within the interior, on the surface, or in any atmosphere present within each system. Atmospheric fluids of great relative depth will demonstrate a more robust accumulated system reaction to the external AGF 1 energy input.. Law #1 explains how the large transfer gravitational energy from orbiting structure works in the atmospheres of the Sun, Saturn, Jupiter, and Neptune. This information enhances knowledge and solutions and innovation.

    Atomic gravitational fluctuation (AGF 1) in each atom in the atmosphere, at the surface, or in the interior of a planet is constantly influenced by the relative alignments to its Sun or moon(s) and any additional planetary systems or areas of matter contained within its solar system.

    Observations show that individual solar systems demonstrate the influence of atomic gravitational fluctuation (AGF 1) interaction with all the different gravity signature’s in its galactic structure. The gravitational behaviour of the gravity signatures in galaxies operate differently from simple newtonian solar systems and eliminates the need for conjured dark matter. The first law of atomic gravity demonstrates the far reaching gravity influences of the very small and the very large.

  3. What are the consequences of gravity having no quantum properties?

    There’s a bit of confusion here. There’s reality, and there’s theory.

    The reality is that we don’t know for a certain fact whether or not gravity has quantum properties, but we know that any consequences of it having quantum properties would be very difficult to observe at a macroscopic scale (as with all other quantum properties of anything). In particular, quantum gravity effects will be much smaller and harder to observe than quantum effects on an electron or photon.

    In any case, gravity will keep on working as it has whether or not it has quantum properties.

    On the theory side, we’re pretty sure that gravity is indeed quantized, for several reasons:

    The other 3 fundamental forces (gravity and the strong and weak nuclear forces) are known to be quantized, and there’s no obvious reason why gravity should be different.

    A quantized gravity is about the only way to deal with the problem of singularities in black holes, and nobody’s happy with the alternative of accepting that there are actual physical singularities in the universe. (There’s other ways to deal with it, but they usually end up implying quantized gravity in one way or another…)

    The major theory consequences are that we can’t explain what happens near that singularity, and we can’t create a single unified theory of all 4 forces.

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