What if the United States collapsed?

Mudassir Ali
Apr 07, 2020 09:16 AM 0 Answers
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What if the United States collapsed?

Mudassir Ali
- Apr 07, 2020 09:16 AM

Originally Answered: What would happen if US collapsed?

It would be ugly.

Much of the world’s financial systems are anchored on the U.S. dollar which would become worthless. Governments from all around the world own large amounts of U.S. debt which US would default making their holdings worthless. China would immediately be $2 trillion poorer. The House of Saud would become paupers. All derivative financial instruments would become worthless. $200 trillion would simply evaporate. In addition the hundreds of trillions of dollars worth of derivatives based on US debt would evaporate. All U.S. banks would close. ATM machines would dispense useless paper. Credit cards would stop working. Life savings, IRA’s, Social Security, Medicare gone …

Loans used for construction would cease to exist, all development construction would ceases. Oil rigs would stop drilling. No one would have money to buy anything. Farmers would not be able to buy fertilizer, diesel, and seed. Depending on the time of year, an entire growing season is missed because of lack of planting. The prisons would empty out. This is the start of something that makes the great depression and WWII look like a picnic has begun.

The military might try to seize power but there are huge challenges for them to keep the collapse from progressing. We now learn why the collapse of the U.S. is different than anything that has happened in history. Because commerce seizes up, the nationwide just in time food distribution system breaks down. Supply chains break down or come to a halt. Commerce across the interstate highway system ceases. The system that has made food distribution so efficient now brings starvation to the majority of Americans just two weeks into the collapse. Safeway, Krogers, Albertson’s, Walmart, Piggly Wiggly, whatever you supermarket finds its shelves completely bare in a matter of days. I notice here in Bend that a big snow storm empties the shelves within about 72 hours even though they still receive sporadic deliveries. Food distributors like Sysco cannot get fuel for their rigs. Disease comes to America as starvation sets in.

The U.S. airlines cease normal operations, passengers are marooned. The U.S. military, the fifth largest consumer of petroleum in the world is broke and cannot buy fuel in foreign countries for its ships, tanks, and airplanes. A kind of Dunkirk begins at hundreds of U.S. military installations around the world. Gas stations in the U.S. sell out in a few days. The electrical grid becomes unreliable. Data centers stay online for as long as they can buy Diesel for emergency generators. The Internet becomes a memory. Cell phones become useless.

Hopefully, the military, what there is of it, can secure about one hundred civilian nuclear plants along with about 100 of their own nuclear ships plus thousands of nuclear warheads along with places like Hanford, Washington to keep equipment, bombs, and radio nuclides from being stolen. They only need to keep the secure for a 10–20 millennia even though they remain a health hazard for another 100 millennia.

Survival for individuals is determined by their community’s ability to work together. There is no surviving on your own. Hanging out in a cabin in the woods with lots of ammunition turns from fantasy into nightmare. Maybe you survive one Winter with hardship but not the next. Generators, refrigerators, well pumps, electrical systems break down and only takes one system to stop working…

How does a recovery begin? I don’t know the answer to this. At this point the entire world is embroiled in a massive depression. Do some U.S. states go their own way? Can the Pentagon rally and stabilize things to keep everything from getting worse? Is there domestic violence? Take away money and basically everything becomes worthless. It’s weird but that’s what happened in the 1930’s. It’s called deflation and once it starts, it is impossible, even for healthy country to stop.

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